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De eeuwige vraag... - vinejo - 22-07-2012 02:27 PM

Is t ne linkeroever? Of ne rechter?

Ook al paar keer naast gezeten?
Dan ben je in goed gezelschap, dit zijn de comments bij een blinde hertasting van jaargang 2005 in Bordeaux.
Bij Ducru dacht R Parker aan een Pomerol, Troplong Mondot leek Latour, Le Gay was Médoc... wijn

1 / Modern style wine, quite popular / / / Pavie (98+)
2 / I actually had a hard time deciding whether this was delicate or closed and, in the end, I decided on both. / quite reticent and closed and some attendees, including Parker, dumped on it for that reason / / Haut Brion (98)
3 / Modern style wine, quite popular/ From favorite wines of the evening for Parker / / Pape Clément (98)
4 / a wall of tannins, but the tannins were elegant and the wine seemed quite like Cabernet. / definitely a Medoc and probably a first growth / / Montrose (95)
5 / was drinking the best right now, truly quite delicious. / Parker suggested it was a Pomerol/ Pomerol / Ducru Beaucaillou (97)
6 / bursting with plump and juicy red fruits that I found to be stewy / / Pape Clément/ Angélus (98)
7 / an alluring nose with just a hint of Brett (think earth and horses), and a gorgeous structure with a balance of tannin from both the barrel and the grapes / / / La Mission Haut Brion (97)
8 / pretty nose of rose petal but, in my view, had a slightly confected quality on the palate. / From favourite wines of the evening for Parker / Cos d’Estournel / L’Eglise Clinet (100)
9 / another beauty and, for me, the wine of the night. Although there was another big slab of tannins, the tannins were elegant undergirding a delicate layer of dark berry aromas. Tightly wound and clearly one for the long haul, I would gladly tuck this away in my basement to enjoy decades from now. / Parker called the wine “virtually perfect,” and thought it was from the Medoc. From favorite wines of the evening for Parker / Margaux / Le Gay (95)
10 / another beauty, with a lovely herbal note on the aroma. On the palate, huge but graceful tannic structure proved that the best wines can have both power and elegance. / Parker said it was “very Medoc and very cabernet” but likely not to be a first growth and suggested, specifically, Ducru. / Ducru Beaucaillou / Latour (96+)
11 /horrendously corked wine. Fortunately, Howard found another bottle and brought it to our table. I found this pour to have a sort of char brulée note, a juiciness on the midpalate but also a nice minerally quality at the core. / Parker called it “shut down.” / / Larcis Ducasse (98)
12 / big, rich, luscious but the tannins were not a wall, rather rich, polished, and expensive, the Ferragamo loafer of tannins. I thought it was a good example of the modern style / From favorite wines of the evening for Parker (but below wines 8,9,3) / / Margaux (98+)
13 / a lovely aromatically but on the palate had somewhat sweet tannins. / Parker commented that he thought it was a first growth. / From favorite wines of the evening for Parker (but below wines 8,9,3) / Latour (or Lafite?) / Lafite (96+)
14 / I found to be overblown, a wall of tannins with overripe fruit. / Parker liked it, however, so much so that he hailed it as a first growth / Lafite (or Latour?) / Troplong Mondot (99)
15 / another gorgeous example of cabernet in a bit more modern style, rich, tarry but not to tarry. / / /Cos d’Estournel (98)


RE: De eeuwige vraag... - de populist - 22-07-2012 02:43 PM

(22-07-2012 02:27 PM)vinejo schreef:  Is t ne linkeroever? Of ne rechter?

Ook al paar keer naast gezeten?
Dan ben je in goed gezelschap, dit zijn de comments bij een blinde hertasting van jaargang 2005 in Bordeaux.
Bij Ducru dacht R Parker aan een Pomerol, Troplong Mondot leek Latour, Le Gay was Médoc... wijn

1 / Modern style wine, quite popular / / / Pavie (98+)
2 / I actually had a hard time deciding whether this was delicate or closed and, in the end, I decided on both. / quite reticent and closed and some attendees, including Parker, dumped on it for that reason / / Haut Brion (98)
3 / Modern style wine, quite popular/ From favorite wines of the evening for Parker / / Pape Clément (98)
4 / a wall of tannins, but the tannins were elegant and the wine seemed quite like Cabernet. / definitely a Medoc and probably a first growth / / Montrose (95)
5 / was drinking the best right now, truly quite delicious. / Parker suggested it was a Pomerol/ Pomerol / Ducru Beaucaillou (97)
6 / bursting with plump and juicy red fruits that I found to be stewy / / Pape Clément/ Angélus (98)
7 / an alluring nose with just a hint of Brett (think earth and horses), and a gorgeous structure with a balance of tannin from both the barrel and the grapes / / / La Mission Haut Brion (97)
8 / pretty nose of rose petal but, in my view, had a slightly confected quality on the palate. / From favourite wines of the evening for Parker / Cos d’Estournel / L’Eglise Clinet (100)
9 / another beauty and, for me, the wine of the night. Although there was another big slab of tannins, the tannins were elegant undergirding a delicate layer of dark berry aromas. Tightly wound and clearly one for the long haul, I would gladly tuck this away in my basement to enjoy decades from now. / Parker called the wine “virtually perfect,” and thought it was from the Medoc. From favorite wines of the evening for Parker / Margaux / Le Gay (95)
10 / another beauty, with a lovely herbal note on the aroma. On the palate, huge but graceful tannic structure proved that the best wines can have both power and elegance. / Parker said it was “very Medoc and very cabernet” but likely not to be a first growth and suggested, specifically, Ducru. / Ducru Beaucaillou / Latour (96+)
11 /horrendously corked wine. Fortunately, Howard found another bottle and brought it to our table. I found this pour to have a sort of char brulée note, a juiciness on the midpalate but also a nice minerally quality at the core. / Parker called it “shut down.” / / Larcis Ducasse (98)
12 / big, rich, luscious but the tannins were not a wall, rather rich, polished, and expensive, the Ferragamo loafer of tannins. I thought it was a good example of the modern style / From favorite wines of the evening for Parker (but below wines 8,9,3) / / Margaux (98+)
13 / a lovely aromatically but on the palate had somewhat sweet tannins. / Parker commented that he thought it was a first growth. / From favorite wines of the evening for Parker (but below wines 8,9,3) / Latour (or Lafite?) / Lafite (96+)
14 / I found to be overblown, a wall of tannins with overripe fruit. / Parker liked it, however, so much so that he hailed it as a first growth / Lafite (or Latour?) / Troplong Mondot (99)
15 / another gorgeous example of cabernet in a bit more modern style, rich, tarry but not to tarry. / / /Cos d’Estournel (98)


Het water is precies veel minder diep tussen die oevers dan wijnboeken ons willen laten geloven. Maar ja, ge moet uw boek toch kunnen vullen met duidelijke informatie hé, dit smaakt zus, dat smaakt zo. Klassieke didactiek, ik heb er nooit van moeten hebben.


RE: De eeuwige vraag... - vinejo - 22-07-2012 03:16 PM

(22-07-2012 02:43 PM)de populist schreef:  Het water is precies veel minder diep tussen die oevers dan wijnboeken ons willen laten geloven.

Nice quote ;-)